Super Gotenks was not on par with Super Buu. I believe Vegito is stronger because of the fact that it is a permanent fusion and that kai magic is stronger than metamoran technique, Goku said, as super saiyan 3, he could have beaten Buu. Goku doesn't have to lower his power to match Vegeta's like he have to do with the fusion dance. Vegito is stronger than Gogeta. Hence why Gotenks only lasted 5 minutes as SS3. SSJ Gotenks was holding his own and surpassed Super Buu once he went to SSJ3. Oh and since we're using movies, SSJ3 Goku>Ultimate Gohan Movie 14 Wrath of the Dragon.Ultimatessj1 (talk) 04:39, March 31, 2014 (UTC)UltimateSSJ1, SSJ4 Goku DBZ would probably be weaker than Super Vegetto/Gogeta, but much stronger than U.Gohan. Only as a SSJ3 is Goku at the end of Z equal to or slightly stronger than Gohan. I know that Vegito wasn’t able to win, especially due to the time limit. Finally, Vegito's base power is said to be perhaps even more powerful than that of a SSJ4. vegito's moves, however, are not.but Gogeta has a stronger power level because that form is using more of goku's power than vegito's goku vegito is using more of vegeta's and goku is stronger than vegeta. Now, nowwhere in the Japanese/Englsih Manga or Anime does it clearly state that Gotenks as a SSJ is equal to SSJ3 Goku. Old Kai's statement do not support Potara>Fusion Dance. The problem here was time, not power level, meaning if Goku and U.Gohan did fuse, regardless of their power difference, then it would be enough for Buutenks. With that being said, Goku was confident that a FUSION DANCE (not* Potara) would be sufficient enough to defeat Buutenks. And I have a VERY hard time believing Base Gogeta is equaled to SSJ3 Goku. So let's take Goku's SSJ4 power level (3.6bil) and make it Vegito's base power. Gogeta is seeking to strengthen his power, and Whis has the perfect training partner! Since you say Base Gogeta is=> than SSJ3 Goku (to which I find absurd).SuperGogeta91 (talk) 21:29, March 31, 2014 (UTC), I agree a SSJ4 Goku DBZ would be much stronger than Ultimate Gohan. With that, I bid you a good day. Also even if Gogeta can go ssj4 Vegito has a post ssjg Goku. if they somehow came to blows it is very likely vegetto would be able to last long enough for gogeta to defuse. SSJ3Vegeto (talk) 01:40, September 15, 2014 (UTC), That interview was later found out to be a fake. I prefer Gogeta because I like his animations better, but I think Vegito is the better unit (subjectively) and I think he fits better on the teams he can be run on( PLus Vegito Blue has more teams and can link extremely well with the PHY VB after transforming. Dec 1, 2019 - Explore ziki chibi's board "gogeta vs vegito" on Pinterest. Considering Gogeta appeared in a movie, there wasn't a whole lot of time to explain everything about the Fusion Dance, so who are we to say? They had the same abilities in the Fusion Reborn movie. —This unsigned comment was made by Vegito2173 (talk • contribs) Please sign your posts with ~~~~ next time! Vegito is stronger. SSJ4 Goku GT would crush Super Vegito. All team HP depleted Time expires HP of all allies in area depleted Plot Edit. I'm pretty confident that the power level that was present during the dance won't create limits for their fusion. Next is Vegito's well no where is it stated but if we go off the Majin saga when he first showed up we can figure it out. So; So Base Vegito would be (SSJ3 Goku 4000 + SSJ2 Vegeta 1000)2= Base Vegito 10,000, So Base Gogeta would be (SSJ2 Goku 1000 + SSJ2 Vegeta 1000)2= Base Gogeta 4,000. btw if this comes up weird, its not my fault this forum has different layout then regular forums. Another Goku is only stronger then vegeta if he goes super sayin 3 in there normal forms they are equals in power lvl. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 20:45, March 16, 2014 (UTC), Okay Vegito is slightly stronger than Gogeta he was able to overwhelm super buu ulti.gohan, fusion dance ssj3 gotenks,and piccolo. Dragon Ball Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. The reason "the potara fusion" produces stronger characters is that it is not based on individual power levels. He held back durig their fight, remember? Vegito Janemba was around Super Buu's level, and Gogeta destroyed him, however Gogeta would probably get throttled by Buuhan, because he knew a fusion wouldn't work against him, and the only fusion Buu knows about is the fusion he saw Trunks/Goten perform. Well acctually, all other things being equal Vegetto would still be 'stronger' because he doesn't have to worry about timing out, messing up the fusion, etc. Like they are even while SSJ2. its like pitting a sprinter up against a marathon runner. He threw it to Gohan and he missed it. Anyway, Gogeta > or = Vegito, if you count personallity or not it could change. So I add the max power levels of the users, and then multiply that number by 2(since their are 2 users) and that gives me my base fusion. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 22:11, November 8, 2013 (UTC). Not even Super Vegetto. Now, Vegito is mostly worse because it takes a lot of his personallity. He is not in the manga/anime. Goku told Trunks he had to lower his power to match Goten's or the fusion dance wouldn't work. A would be SSJ4 Goku DBZ would smash Vegito or Gogeta, but once they ascended just one time. If Gogeta can go Super Sayain 4, Vegito can too. In any case, the exact level of power to which the strength of each character is amplified is unknown in each case. Vegito according to Elder Kai. And the only reason vegito messed around with buu is so he could get absorbed and free everyone from buus body, so just because he messed around with buu doesn't mean he will always act that way when he fights. Even if they both teamed up on him it would be useless. This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Vegetto wanted Buu to absorb him so he could release Goten, Trunks, Piccolo, and Gohan, he didn't want to take Buu out right away. At equal levels I'm leaning towards Gogeta. If anyone wants to take me up on it go right ahead. 3. Even if one fusion lets you multiply your power by 50x then goku doing that at full power and Vegeta doing it at full power is stronger then Goku and Vegeta doing it at Vegeta's full power. And personal opinions don't count. I think that the fusion brought on by the ear rings is stronger than a fusion via "fusion dance". Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Big Bang Mission!!! Vegito is vastly superior to any fighter in any Dragon Ball series and is in a complete leage of his own. I have Base Vegito with the same ingredients (SSJ3 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta) at 10,000. There definatley is a difference though. Sal McClinton (talk) 19:42, March 10, 2014 (UTC). Anything outside of that is irrelevant to me. And although we haven't seen Vegito go above SSJ, doesn't mean he can't. In the manga, it translates to "better." Buuhan, Buutenks, and Super Janemba are all around the same power with Buuhan being the strongest by a small margain. SuperGogeta91 (talk) 00:51, September 16, 2014 (UTC), Lmao I used to be such a noob ^^^ anyway, the answer is clear as day in the manga who's stronger. So we will say Goku and Vegeta are equal with a power level of 10 at their base. However this is only if we are going off of DBZ (which is the best one to go off of anyways) because as a super saiyan four gogeta would win but at the same level of super saiyan vegito is the winner. Buutenks ran out of time on Gotenks Fusion, so he became Buuiccolo. Old kai said "what's more is that since they're rivals they're even stronger". We just don't know by how much--Ssj3gogeta96 (talk) 03:17, March 10, 2014 (UTC)ssj3gogeta96. i'd say they are around the same power level but its like comparing a sprinter to a long distance runner, i think gogeta has slightly more strength to compensate for the time limit, Vegito is outright stated to be stronger than gogeta. So no, he wouldn't have Goku's SSJ3 power since the Fusion Dance combines to equal energies. So, it wouldn't matter if Gohan's base was so much higher than Goku's. 04:39, April 8, 2012 (UTC). It's a wash on that front. Vegito dies. Alright we also know that super saiyan is x50 base power level so that would come out to his base power level being 50,000,000. Personally, I think that SSJ4 Goku oneshots Vegito, and Syn was giving him trouble. He always wanted fusion. That thing the kids were doing, eh? Remember when Goku was teaching it to Trunks and Goten and told to go max power in Super Sayain? Anyway, Vegito might have an upper hand becuase Gogeta has a time limit, but considering how fast the two can move at this point, I doubt the conclusion of this fight would come down to Gogeta defusing. So all in all Buu Saga Super Vegito is about 2.5x stronger than Movie 12 Super Gogeta.Ultimatessj1 (talk) 22:40, March 29, 2014 (UTC)UltimateSSJ1, You're basically saying that Gogeta would only get Goku's SSJ2 max power and not his SSJ3 which wouldn't make sense. Potara doesn't bring a perfect fusion. So it was less effedtive in the long run, but still very effective. Plus it doesn't have a time limit. Don't believe me? Vegetto from Future Trunks arc gets stomped by Suppressed Jiren from Episode 109. That doesn't sound to me like it gives a huge boost. So for Gogeta Goku has to lower his power immensly to match Vegeta's However for the earring Fusion they can both be at full power. But I have repeated myself, so to make this clear FUSION DANCE IS MAX EQUAL POWER LEVELS. 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